Butting Heads: Ron Paul and MSNBC Host Alex Wagner Get Heated During Interview

On Thursday’s “NOW w/Alex Wagner” on MSNBC, an appearance by former Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul ended in a fiery argument centered around the Third Secret of Fatima.

Paul, father of Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul, made the appearance to promote his new Ron Paul Channel.

WagnerPaul-e1378402300565The wide-ranging interview lasted nearly 13 minutes and involved some current news, including possible U.S. military strikes on Syria and the National Security Agency’s domestic surveillance program.

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However, the interview took a contentious turn when host Alex Wagner questioned Paul about his decision to speak at a purportedly “anti-Semitic” event hosted by a Canadian Catholic group inspired by the 1917 Marian apparitions in Fatima, Portugal.

Partial transcript as follows:

WAGNER: Dr. Paul you talk a lot about liberty, and broad coalitions. And I think one of the, you know, one of the most hopeful signs for the GOP is the broad coalition that you were able to put together in the last presidential race, young people, old people, middle aged people, which is really an outlier within the current state of the Republican Party. But with your emphasis on liberty I have to ask you about some of the folks that are in your coalition. And this weekend you’re going to be giving an address at the Fatima center in Canada, which has been called a hardcore anti-Semite group. Is this something that you would reconsider doing?
PAUL: No, as a Catholic —
WAGNER: Even — go ahead.
PAUL: I even talk to Republicans and they disagree with everything I say. You know, when I’m on a Republican stage and I say we should have a foreign policy of a golden rule they boo me. I’m trying to convert people. But I’m going to a conservative, Catholic group that is pro-peace, and wants to hear my foreign policy and my take on economy. If I go only — I wouldn’t be on this station if I had to have a litmus test. I mean, you have —
WAGNER: This station —
PAUL: — why can’t I go there?


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